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1. Biographical notes:

 

Born English-speaking Canada per 1900 US Census, though 1910 US Census suggests born New York State.  Died

 

2. Wife: (?)

 

Born English-speaking Canada per 1900 US Census, though 1910 US Census suggests born New York State.

 

3. Children: (perhaps others)

 

a. John Wesley Place: See generation 4, below.

 

4   John Wesley Place (more info)

 

1. Biographical notes:

 

Born 11 April 1835/36, most likely in Ontario, Canada (perhaps Belvedere) (also seen: b. 4 Nov 1836 in VT)  Died Saturday afternoon, 2 October 1915 in Cape Vincent Township Jefferson County, New York; interred Brownville Cemetery, Brownville Township, Jefferson County, New York.  As an infant immigrated to the US [abt 1934] and subsequently became a naturalized citizen.  Veteran of the American Civil War; served in Company C of the 94th NY Infantry Regiment from November 1861 to October 1863, 1 year and 11 months.  Subsequently served in Company A of the 11th NY Cavalry (was still employed by the Army in 1865.  His widow, Lucy A. Place filed for a pension on 30 October 1915 in New York, about 28 days after his death.  About 1875 moved his family from Diana Township, Lewis County, New York to North Croghan Township, Lewis County, New York.  Subsequently moved his family to Saginaw County, Michigan.  

 

1855 US Census: Of possible interest, a John Place, age 21 (b. Canada) and employed as a sailor, resided in the household headed by his step-father, Fesenden Curtiss, age 37 (b. Jefferson Co., NY) and employed as in Henderson Township, Jefferson County, New York.  The household also included Fesenden's wife, Susanna Curtiss, age 43 (b. Canajoharie Twp, Montgomery Co., NY); son, Erskine Curtiss, age 6 (b. Jefferson Co., NY); son, Fesenden Curtiss, Jr., age 4 (b. Jefferson Co., NY); and daughter, Susan Curtiss, age 10 months (b. Jefferson Co., NY).  All but Susan had resided in Henderson Township for 4 years [so moved there abt 1851].

 

1860 US Census: On 5 Aug 1860, J. Place, age 24 (b. NYS) and employed as a laborer, was heading a household in Lorraine Township, Jefferson County, New York.  The household also included his wife, Lucy Place, age 21 (b. NYS); and an apparently unnamed daughter, age 1 month.  Of interest, the household headed by C. Gillman, age 66 (b. CT) and employed as a farmer, was enumerated very close by (1 census page before).

 

1865 NYS Census: John W. Place, age 28 (b. Canada) and a farmer by trade, was heading a household in Lorraine Township, Jefferson County, New York.  It appears he was employed in some capacity by the Army.  He had been married twice.  The household also included his wife, Lucy Place, age 25 (b. Jefferson Co., NY), who had had 2 children and had been married once; daughter, Emma Place, age 5 (b. Jefferson Co., NY); and son, Freddy Place, age 2 (b. Jefferson Co., NY). 

 

1870 US Census: John Place, age 35 (b. Canada) and employed as a farm laborer, was heading a household in Ellisburg Township (Belleville Post Office), Jefferson County, New York.  His real estate was valued at $600.  The household also included his wife, Lucy Place, age 30 (b. NYS); daughter, Emma Place, age 10 (b. NYS); son, Freddie Place, age 7 (b. NYS); son, William Place, age 3 (b. NYS); son, Melvin Place, age 1 (b. NYS). ,age

 

1875 NYS Census: John W. Place, age 39 (b. Canada) and employed as a farmer, was heading a household in Diana Township, Lewis County, New York.  His residence was valued at $100.  The household also included his wife, Lucy A. Place, age 35 (b. Jefferson Co., NY); daughter, Emma I. Place, age 15 (b. Jefferson Co., NY); son, Frederick G. Place, age 12 (b. Jefferson Co., NY); son, Wm W. Place, age 8 (b. Jefferson Co., NY); son, Malvin B. Place, age 6 (b. Jefferson Co., NY); son, Floyd O. Place, age 3 years and 7 months (b. Lewis Co., NY); and son, Philow W. [quite legible] Place, age 1 year and 1 month (b. Lewis Co., NY).

 

1880 US Census: No record found for John Place.  His family was recorded in Croghan Township, Lewis County, New York (see wife, Lucy, below).

 

1890 US Census of Union Veterans and Widows of the Civil War: John W. Place resided in Cape Vincent Township, Jefferson County, New York; his record had been lost.

 

1900 US Census (enumerated 5 Jun 1900): John Place, age 64 (b. Apr 1836 in NYS; parents b. NYS) and employed as a carpenter, was heading a household on Bay Street in the Village of Cape Vincent, Cape Vincent Township, Jefferson County, New York.  The household also included his wife of 35 years, Nancy Place, age 60 (b. Oct 1839 in NYS), who had had 4 children, all still alive; and son, Albert Place, age 20 (b. Jun 1879 in NYS), single, and employed as a day laborer.  John was also recorded in Ellisburg Township, Jefferson County, New York (see directly below).

 

1900 US Census (enumerated 2 Jul 1900): John Place, age 65 (b. Apr 1835 in English-speaking Canada; parents b. English-speaking Canada) and employed as a fisherman, resided in the household headed by his step-son, George Place, age 38, in the Village of Belleville, Ellisburg Township, Jefferson County, New York.

 

1905 NYS Census: John W. Place, age 70, resided in the household headed by his son, George F. Place, age 42, in Ellisburg Township, Jefferson County, New York. 

 

1905 NYS Census: John Place, age 60 [should be 70] (a US citizen), was heading a household in Cape Vincent Township, Jefferson County, New York.  The household also included his wife, Nancy Place, age 60 [should be 65] (a US citizen); granddaughter [daughter of son, Melvin], Frances Place, age 2 (a US citizen); and boarder, Damace Guilbout, age 52 (not a US citizen).

 

1910 US Census: John W. Place, age 77 (b. English-speaking Canada; parents b. NYS) and employed as a net fisherman, was heading a household on Bay Street in the Village of Cape Vincent, Cape Vincent Township, Jefferson County, New York.  He immigrated to the US in 1834 (subsequently naturalized) and had been married twice.  The household also included his wife of 50 years, Lucy A. Place, age 70 (b. NYS; parents b. NYS), who had been married once and had had 7 children, 6 of whom were still alive; and granddaughter, Francis M. Place, age 7 (b. NYS).

 

1915 NYS Census: John W. Place, age 77 [should be abt 80; 1915 obit says age 85], was heading a household in Cape Vincent Township, Jefferson County, New York.  The household also included his wife, Lucy G. Place, age 74; and granddaughter, Francis Place, age 11.

 

2. Wife #1: (?)

 

1910 US Census says John W. Place had been married twice; the first presumably occurred before 1859, when he married Lucy Gilman.

 

3. Wife #2: Lucy Ann Gilman (more info)

"Nancy" (perhaps; see 1900 and 1905 Censuses)

 

Born 13 October 1839 in Lorraine Township, Jefferson County, New York.  Died June 1917, age 78 years, 7 months, and 4 days in Cape Vincent Township, Jefferson County, New York; interred with John in Brownville Cemetery, Brownville Township, Jefferson County, New York.  Married John W. Place 16 July 1859.

 

1850 US Census: Lucy would be about 11 years old.  Of interest, the following Gillman/Gilman households were enumerated in Lorraine Township, Jefferson County, New York (perhaps brothers; both b. CT).  However, in several census records, Lucy said her parents were born in NYS.

 

1. Chester Gillman, age 56 (b. CT) and employed as a tavern keeper.  His real estate was valued at $1,800.  The household also included his wife, Priscilla Gillman, age 48 (b. CT); daughter, Caroline Gillman, age 20 (b. presumed NYS); daughter, Adaline Gillman, age 18 (b. presumed NYS); daughter, Delina Gillman, age 14 (b. presumed NYS); daughter, Almira Gillman, age 8 (b. presumed NYS); daughter, Helen Gillman, age 4 (b. presumed NYS); and Peter Vanschuyler, age 19 (b. Canada) and employed as a hostler (groom/stableman).

 

2. Samuel Gillman, age 59 (b. CT) and employed as a farmer.  His real estate was valued at $2,500.  The household also included his wife, Mary Gillman, age 57 (b. CT); daughter, Charlotte Gillman, age 18 (b. NYS); daughter, Deantha Gillman, age 16 (b. NYS); and daughter, Nancy Gillman, age 13 (b. NYS).

 

1850 US Census: Of interest, Rufus A. Gilman, age 48 (b. NH) and employed as a merchant, was heading a household in Plattsburgh Township, Clinton County, New York.  His real estate was valued at $2,000.  The household also included his wife, Anne H. Gilman, age 44 (b. NYS); daughter, Elizabeth Gilman, age 18 (b. NYS); son, Benj M. Gilman, age 14 (b. NYS); daughter, Louisa Gilman, age 12 (b. NYS); daughter, Julia Gilman, age 5 (b. NYS); son, Platt Gilman, age 2 (b. NYS); James Campbell, age 20 (b. NYS) and employed as a clerk; Sarah Marshall, age 25 (b. Canada), with no occupation recorded; and Amedee Lareaux, age 12 (b. Canada), with no occupation recorded.

 

1855 NYS Census: Lucy would be about 16 years old.  Of interest, the following Gilman households were enumerated in Lorraine Township, Jefferson County, New York.

 

1. Chester Gilman, age 61 (b. CT) and employed as a farmer, was heading a household in Lorraine Township, Jefferson County, New York.  He had resided in Lorraine Township 48 years, and his residence was valued at $1,400.  The household also included his wife, Leville? Gilman, age 53 (b. Warren Co., NY), who had resided in Lorraine Township 37 years; daughter, Adaline Gilman, age 22 (b. Jefferson Co., NY), who had resided in Lorrain Township 19 years; daughter, Delida Gilman, age 18 (b. Jefferson Co., NY), who had resided in Lorraine Township 18 years; daughter, Almira Gilman, age 13 (b. Jefferson Co., NY), who had resided I Lorraine Township 13 years; daughter, Ellen Gilman, age 8 (b. Jefferson Co., NY), who had resided in Lorraine Township 8 years; and servant, Daniel Overacer, age 65 (b. unknown), who had resided in Lorraine Township 1 year.

 

2. Solman Gilman, age 64 (b. CT) and employed as a farmer, was heading a household in Lorraine Township, Jefferson County, New York.  He had resided in Lorraine Township 48 years.  The household also included his wife, Mary Gilman, age 62 (b. CT), who had resided in Lorraine Township 42 years; daughter, Charlot Gilman, age 22 (b. Jefferson Co., NY), who had resided in Lorraine Township 22 years; and daughter, Nancy J. Gilman, age 18 (b. Jefferson Co., NY), who had resided in Lorraine Township 18 years.  Of interest, the household headed by Julius Gilman was enumerated next door.

 

Note: This Nancy J. Gilman still resided in the household headed by Solman Gilman in 1870, more than 10 years after Lucy Gilman married John W. Place.

 

3. Julius Gilman, age 38 (b. Jefferson Co., NY) and employed as a farmer, was heading a household in Lorraine Township, Jefferson County, New York.  He had resided in Lorraine Township 38 years.  The household also included his wife, Armena Gilman, age 34 (b. Chenango Co., NY), who had resided in Lorrain Township 11 years; son, Martin Gilman, age 10 (b. Jefferson Co., NY); son, Albert Gilman, age 8 (b. Jefferson Co., NY); and daughter, Alace Gilman, age 4 (b. Jefferson Co., NY).  The children resided their entire lives in Lorraine Township.  Of interest, the household headed by Solman Gilman, age 64, was enumerated next door. 

 

1855 NYS Census: Of interest, especially because of the surnames involved, a Lucy Gilman, age 17 (b. VT), resided as a boarder in the household headed by Edgar Place, age 29 (b. VT) and employed as a blacksmith, in Essex Township, Essex County, New York.  She had resided in Essex Township for 1 year.  Edgar, his wife, and children had resided in Essex Township for 2 years, and his residence was valued at $400.  The household also included his wife, Elmina Place, age 29 (b. VT); daughter, May Place, age 8 (b. VT); son, Eugene Place, age 6 (b. VT); son, George Place, age 5 (b. VT); boarder, Lucy Baldwin, age 58 (b. NH) and married, who had resided in Essex Township 1 year; boarder, Martin Baldwin, age 88 (b. NJ) and married, who had resided in Essex Township 1 year; and boarder, Ovette Place, age 11 (b. NYS), who had resided in Essex Township for 4 months.

 

1880 US Census: Lucy Place, age 40 (b. NYS; parents b. NYS), married, and employed keeping house, was heading a household in Croghan Township, Lewis County, New York.  Her husband was not enumerated in this household.  The household also included her daughter, Emma Place, age 20 (b. NYS; parents b. NYS) and at home; son, William Place, age 14 (b. NYS; parents b. NYS) and at school; son, Melvin Place, age 11 (b. NYS; parents b. NYS); son, Otto Place, age 8 (b. NYS; parents b. NYS); son, Philow Place, age 6 (b. NYS; parents b. NYS); and son, Bertie Place, age 1 (b. NYS; parents b. NYS).

 

4. Children:

 

a. Daughter: Born June/July 1860 in New York.

 

b. Emma Idell Place: (more info) See generation 3a, below.

 

c. Frederick George Place "George": (more info) Born 4 August 1862 in Lorraine Township, Jefferson County, New York.  Died 1927; interred Brownville Cemetery, Brownville Township, Jefferson County, New York.

 

1880 US Census: George Place, age 17 (b. NYS; parents b. NYS) and employed as a servant [presumably farm laborer], resided in the household headed by Joel Hubbard, age 35 (b. NYS; parents b. NYS) and employed as a farmer in Champion Township, Jefferson County, New York.  The household also included Joel's family.

 

1892 NYS Census: George Place, age 29 (b. US) and employed at a saw mill, was heading a household in Croghan Township, Lewis County, New York.  The household also included his wife, Hattie Place, age 24 (b. US); and brother, Melvin Place, age 22 (b. US) and employed as a laborer.

 

1900 US Census: George Place, age 38 (b. Aug 1861 in NYS; parents b. NYS) and employed as a fisherman, was heading a household at Woodville, Ellisburg Township, Jefferson County, New York.  The household also included his wife of 15 years, Hattie Place, age 31 (b. Jun 1868 in NYS; parents b. NYS), who had had no children; step-father, John Place, age 65 (b. Apr 1835 in English-speaking Canada; parents b. English-speaking Canada) and employed as a fisherman, who immigrated to the US in 1840 and was subsequently naturalized; and brother, Bert J. Place, age 21 (b. Jun 1878 in NYS; parents b. NYS), single, and employed as a fisherman.  Of interest, the household headed by George's brother, Otis Place, was enumerated next door.

 

1905 NYS Census: George F. Place, age 42 (b. US), was heading a household in Ellisburg Township, Jefferson County, New York.  The household also included his wife, Hattie Place, age 36 (b. US); and father, John W. Place, age 70.

 

1910 US Census: George Place, age 45 (b. NYS; parents b. NYS), widowed, and employed as a lake fisherman, resided in the household headed by his brother, Bert Place, age 29, in Ellisburg Township, Jefferson County, New York.

 

1915 NYS Census: George Place, age 45, resided in the household headed by his brother, Bert Place in Ellisburg Township, Jefferson County, New York.

 

1920 US Census: George Place, age 56 (b. NYS), widowed, and employed as a house carpenter, resided in the household headed by his brother, Bert Place, age 39, in the Village of Cape Vincent, Cape Vincent Township, Jefferson County, New York.

 

1925 NYS Census: George F. Place, age 59, resided in the household headed by his brother, Bert J. Place, in the Village of Cape Vincent, Cape Vincent Township, Jefferson County, New York.

 

George Place married Hattie Nichols (more info) (b. Jun 1868 in NYS, d. there 1907), sister of Nellie Nichols (b. Mar 1870 at Carthage, Jefferson Co., NY, d. 25 Aug 1933 at Middletown, Butler Co., OH), who was the daughter of Cal Nichols and married Ambrose Bert Morgan (b. 7 Nov 1869 at Watertown, Jefferson Co., NY, d. 5 Sep 1946 in OH) and had several children.  George and Hattie (Nichols) Place were married about 1885; no children.

 

d. William W. Place: Born 1867 in Jefferson County, New York.  Died 1908.

 

e. Melvin B. Place: Born March 1869 in Jefferson County, New York.  Died .

 

1892 NYS Census: Melvin Place, age 22 (b. US) resided in the household headed by his brother, George Place, age 29 (b. US) in Croghan Township, Lewis County, New York.  

 

1900 US Census: Melvin Place, age 31 (b. Mar 1869 in NYS) and employed as a day laborer, was heading a household on Elem Street in the Village of Cape Vincent, Cape Vincent Township, Jefferson County, New York.  The household also included his wife of 3 years, Hattie Place, age 24 (b. Sep 1875 in NYS), who had had 1 child, still alive, but not enumerated in this household.  Of interest, the household headed by his brother, Philo Place, age 26, was enumerated on the same census page.

 

1910 US Census: No record found.

 

Of interest, a Martin Place, age 40 (b. NYS; parents b. NYS) and employed as a farmer, was heading a household in Ellisburg Township, Jefferson County, New York.  He had been married once.  The household also included his wife of 20 years, Elvira Place age 39 (b. NYS; parents b. NYS), who had had 1 child, still alive; son, DeAlton R. Place, age 10 (b. NYS); and hired man, Clem Ridgeway, age 18 (b. NYS; parents b. NYS) and single.  He was also heading a household there in 1900.

 

1915 NYS Census: No record found. 

 

1920 US Census: Melvin Place, age 50 (b. NYS) and employed as a carpenter in a car shop, was heading a household at 168 Allen Street in the City of Buffalo, Erie County, New York.  The household also included his wife, Anna Place, age 45 (b. Ireland), who immigrated to the US in 1895 and was subsequently naturalized.

 

1925 NYS Census: Melvin Place, age 55 (b. US), was heading a household in the City of Buffalo, Erie County, New York. (pg 29)

 

1930 US Census: Melvin Place, age 61 (b. NYS; parents b. NYS) and employed as a house carpenter, was heading a household at 1261 Michigan Avenue in the City of Buffalo, Erie County, New York.  He married 1st at age 30.  The household also included his wife, Anna Place, age 52 (b. Ireland; parents b. Ireland), who immigrated to the US in 1895 (subsequently naturalized) and married 1st at age 17.

 

1940 US Census: Melvin Place, age 71 (b. NYS) and widowed, with no occupation recorded, was heading a one-person household on Genesee Street.  No education level recorded.  He resided in the same city on 1 April 1935.

 

Melvin Place married (1st) Hattie Radley (more info) (b. Sep 1875 in Cape Vincent Twp, Jefferson Co., NY, d. Monday, 10 Nov 1902, age 28, at home, 8 Howk Street, Watertown, Jefferson Co., NY, about 3 weeks following the birth of her daughter; interred New Saint Vincent de Paul Cem., Cape Vincent, NY), daughter of Luke and Mary Augustine (Chavoustie) Radley, about 1897 and had the following daughter:

 

(1. Frances Mary Place: Born October 1902, about 3 weeks before the death of her mother, at Watertown, Jefferson County, New York.  Married Charles Henry Smith (b. abt 1896) of Warner's, Onondaga County, New York, son of Harvey J. (b. Little Falls, NY) and Lucy (Monroe) Smith (b. Little Falls, NY), on 8 December 1923 at Cape Vincent, Jefferson County, New York.

 

1905 NYS Census: Frances Place, age 2, resided in the household headed by her grandfather, John Place, in Cape Vincent Township, Jefferson County, New York.

 

1910 US Census: Francis M. Place, age 7 (b. NYS), resided with her grandparents, John and Lucy Place, on Bay Street in the Village of Cape Vincent, Cape Vincent Township, Jefferson County, New York.

 

Melvin Place married (2nd) Anna (?) (b. abt 1875 in Ireland), who immigrated to the US in 1895.

 

f. Floyd Otis Place "Otis F.": (more info) Born 18 October 1871 in Diana Township, Lewis County, New York.  Died 1955, age 84, in the House of the Good Samaritan Hospital, Watertown, Jefferson County, New York; interred Black River Cemetery, Rutland Township, Jefferson County, New York.  At age 4 moved with his parents from Diana Township, Lewis County, New York to the northern part of Croghan Township, Lewis County.  Subsequently moved with his parents to Saginaw County, Michigan.  Returning to northern New York, Otis resided in the Village of Black River, Rutland and LeRay Townships, Jefferson County, New York, where he was employed as a grinderman for the Sherman Paper Company [heavy, physical work; a grinderman feeds water-soaked, debarked logs into a compartment containing a large spinning grind stone bathed in water spray to produce wood fiber used to make paper].

 

1880 US Census: Samuel Olds, age 43 (b. NYS; parents b. CT) and employed as a farmer, was heading a household in Lorraine Township, Jefferson County, New York.  The household also included his wife, Lidda A. Olds, age 38 (b. NYS; parents b. NYS); and daughter, Lillian Olds, age 6 (b. NYS).

 

1900 US Census: Otis Place, age 28 (b. Oct 1871 in NYS; parents b. NYS) and employed as a fisherman, was heading a household in Ellisburg Township, Jefferson County, New York.  The household also included his wife of 8 years, Lillian Place, age 26 (b. May 1874 in NYS; parents b. NYS), who had had no children.  Of interest, the household headed by his brother, George Place, age 38 (b. Aug 1861 in NYS), which also contained their step-father, John Place, age 65 (b. Apr 1835 in English-speaking Canada) was enumerated next door.

 

1905 NYS Census: Otis F. Place, age 33 (b. US), was heading a household on Watertown Street in LeRay Township, Jefferson County, New York.  The household also included his wife, Lillian H. Place, age 31 (b. US).

 

1910 US Census: Ottis F. Place, age 38 (b. NYS; father b. English-speaking Canada; mother b. NYS) and employed as a laborer in a paper mill, was heading a household on Maple Street in the Village of Black River, LeRay Township, Jefferson County, New York.  The household also included his wife of 17 years, Lillian O. Place, age 35 (b. NYS), who had had no children.

 

1915 NYS Census: Otis F. Place, age 44, was heading a household in LeRay Township, Jefferson County, New York.  The household also included his wife, Lillian O. Place, age 41.

 

1920 US Census: Otis F. Place, age 48 (b. NYS; father b. Canada; mother b. NYS) and employed as a grinderman in a paper mill, was heading a household at 153 North Main Street in the Village of Black River, LeRay Township, Jefferson County, New York.  The household also included his wife, Lillian O. Place, age 45 (b. NYS; parents b. NYS).

 

1925 NYS Census: F. Otis Place, age 54 (b. US) was heading a household in LeRay Township, Jefferson County, New York.  The household also included his wife, O. Lillian Place, age 51. (pg 5)

 

1930 US Census: Otis F. Place, age 57 (b. NYS; father b. English-speaking Canada; mother b. NYS) and employed as a tender in a paper mill, was heading a household at 153 North Main Street in the Village of Black River, LeRay Township, Jefferson County, New  York.  He married 1st at age 20, and his residence was valued at $2,000.  The household also included his wife, Lillian O. Place, age 55 (b. NYS; parents b. NYS), who married 1st at age 19.

 

1940 US Census: Otis Place, age 67 (b. NYS), with no occupation recorded, was heading a household at 153 North Main Street in the Village of Black River, LeRay Township, Jefferson County, New York.  He had completed 8th grade, and his residence was valued at $1,500.  The household also included his wife, Lillian Place, age 64 (b. NYS), who had completed 8th grade.  They resided in the same town on 1 April 1935.

 

Otis Place married Lillian H. (Merritt) Olds (more info) (b. 24 May 1874 in Worth Twp, Jefferson Co., NYS, d. 19 Jun 1943 in an Ogdensburg, St. Lawrence County, New York Hospital; interred with Otis) on 24 December 1891 in the Village of Adams, Adams Township, Jefferson County, New York.  Lillian was the daughter of John Martin and Margaret (Flaherty) Merritt, but because her mother died shortly after her birth, Lillian was informally adopted and raised by Samuel P. and Lydia "Lily"/"Lidda" Ann (?) Olds of Lorraine Township, Jefferson County, New York.  Otis and Lillian had no children.

 

g. Philo Ulysses Place: (more info) See generation 3b, below.

 

h. Albert "Bert" John Place: See generation 3c, below.

 

3a  Emma Idell Place: (more info)

 

Born 31 May 1861 in Ellisburg Township, Jefferson County, New York.  Died Friday, 12 July 1940 at home in Watertown, Jefferson County, New York.  Married (1st) (?).  Married (2nd) George Everett Schram, paragraph D.4.a.(1. of generation 3 of the Kirchner Annex on 22 September 1897 at Mather's Mills (near Belleville), Ellisburg Township, Jefferson County in New York.

 

See Kirchner Annex for More Info

 

 

3b  Philo Ulysses Place: (more info)

 

Born 13 March 1872/75.  Died 3 March 1948.  Married Charlotte Anna Schram, paragraph D.4.a.(4. of generation 3 of the Kirchner Annex on 24 November 1897.

 

See Kirchner Annex for More Info

 

 

3c  Bert John Place:

 

Born 22 June 1879 in New York.  Died 9 September 1959 in the Village of Cape Vincent, Cape Vincent Township, Jefferson County, New York.  Married Mae Louise Schram, paragraph D.4.a.(6. of generation 3 of the Kirchner Annex on .

 

See Kirchner Annex for More Info

 

 

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