PLACE ANNEX
Emma Idell
(Place) Schram Pedigree
Philo Ulysses Place Pedigree
Bert John Place Pedigree
(Start at generation 1, below.)
WORKING DRAFT
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Origin of
the surname “Place:”
Generation
6
5 (?) Place
1. Biographical notes:
Born English-speaking Canada per 1900 US Census, though 1910 US Census suggests
born New York State. Died
2. Wife: (?)
Born English-speaking Canada per 1900 US Census, though 1910 US Census
suggests born New York State.
3. Children: (perhaps others)
a. John Wesley Place: See generation 4, below.
4 John Wesley Place (more info)
1. Biographical notes:
Born 11 April 1835/36, most likely in Ontario, Canada (perhaps
Belvedere) (also seen: b. 4 Nov 1836 in VT)
Died Saturday afternoon, 2 October 1915 in Cape Vincent Township
Jefferson County, New York; interred Brownville Cemetery, Brownville Township,
Jefferson County, New York. As an infant
immigrated to the US [abt 1934] and subsequently became a naturalized citizen. Veteran of the American Civil War; served in
Company C of the 94th NY Infantry Regiment from November 1861 to October 1863,
1 year and 11 months. Subsequently
served in Company A of the 11th NY Cavalry (was still employed by the Army in
1865. His widow, Lucy A. Place filed for
a pension on 30 October 1915 in New York, about 28 days after his death. About 1875 moved his family from Diana
Township, Lewis County, New York to North Croghan
Township, Lewis County, New York. Subsequently moved his family to Saginaw County, Michigan.
1855 US Census: Of possible interest, a John Place,
age 21 (b. Canada) and employed as a sailor, resided in the household headed by
his step-father, Fesenden Curtiss, age 37 (b.
Jefferson Co., NY) and employed as in Henderson Township, Jefferson County, New
York. The household also included Fesenden's wife, Susanna Curtiss, age 43 (b. Canajoharie Twp, Montgomery Co., NY); son, Erskine Curtiss, age 6 (b. Jefferson Co.,
NY); son, Fesenden Curtiss, Jr., age 4 (b. Jefferson
Co., NY); and daughter, Susan Curtiss, age 10 months (b. Jefferson Co.,
NY). All but Susan had resided in
Henderson Township for 4 years [so moved there abt 1851].
1860 US Census: On 5 Aug 1860, J. Place, age 24 (b. NYS)
and employed as a laborer, was heading a household in Lorraine Township, Jefferson
County, New York. The household also
included his wife, Lucy Place, age 21 (b. NYS); and an apparently unnamed
daughter, age 1 month. Of interest, the
household headed by C. Gillman, age 66 (b. CT) and employed as a farmer, was
enumerated very close by (1 census page before).
1865 NYS Census: John W. Place, age 28 (b. Canada)
and a farmer by trade, was heading a household in Lorraine Township, Jefferson
County, New York. It appears he was
employed in some capacity by the Army.
He had been married twice. The
household also included his wife, Lucy Place, age 25 (b. Jefferson Co., NY),
who had had 2 children and had been married once; daughter, Emma Place, age 5
(b. Jefferson Co., NY); and son, Freddy Place, age 2 (b. Jefferson Co.,
NY).
1870 US Census: John Place, age 35 (b. Canada) and
employed as a farm laborer, was heading a household in Ellisburg Township
(Belleville Post Office), Jefferson County, New York. His real estate was valued at $600. The household also included his wife, Lucy
Place, age 30 (b. NYS); daughter, Emma Place, age 10 (b. NYS); son, Freddie
Place, age 7 (b. NYS); son, William Place, age 3 (b. NYS); son, Melvin Place,
age 1 (b. NYS). ,age
1875 NYS Census: John W. Place, age 39 (b. Canada)
and employed as a farmer, was heading a household in Diana Township, Lewis
County, New York. His residence was
valued at $100. The household also
included his wife, Lucy A. Place, age 35 (b. Jefferson Co., NY); daughter, Emma
I. Place, age 15 (b. Jefferson Co., NY); son, Frederick G. Place, age 12 (b.
Jefferson Co., NY); son, Wm W. Place, age 8 (b. Jefferson Co., NY); son, Malvin B. Place, age 6 (b. Jefferson Co., NY); son, Floyd
O. Place, age 3 years and 7 months (b. Lewis Co., NY); and son, Philow W. [quite legible] Place, age 1 year and 1 month (b.
Lewis Co., NY).
1880 US Census: No record found for John Place. His family was recorded in Croghan Township, Lewis County, New York (see wife, Lucy,
below).
1890 US Census of Union Veterans and Widows of the Civil
War: John W. Place resided in Cape Vincent Township, Jefferson County, New
York; his record had been lost.
1900 US Census (enumerated 5 Jun 1900): John Place,
age 64 (b. Apr 1836 in NYS; parents b. NYS) and employed as a carpenter, was
heading a household on Bay Street in the Village of Cape Vincent, Cape Vincent
Township, Jefferson County, New York.
The household also included his wife of 35 years, Nancy Place, age 60
(b. Oct 1839 in NYS), who had had 4 children, all still alive; and son, Albert
Place, age 20 (b. Jun 1879 in NYS), single, and employed as a day laborer. John was also recorded in Ellisburg Township,
Jefferson County, New York (see directly below).
1900 US Census (enumerated 2 Jul 1900): John Place,
age 65 (b. Apr 1835 in English-speaking Canada; parents b. English-speaking
Canada) and employed as a fisherman, resided in the household headed by his step-son, George Place, age 38, in the Village of Belleville, Ellisburg
Township, Jefferson County, New York.
1905 NYS Census: John W. Place, age 70, resided in
the household headed by his son, George F. Place, age 42, in Ellisburg
Township, Jefferson County, New York.
1905 NYS Census: John Place, age 60 [should be 70] (a US citizen), was
heading a household in Cape Vincent Township, Jefferson County, New York. The household also included his wife, Nancy Place, age 60 [should be 65] (a US
citizen); granddaughter [daughter of son, Melvin], Frances Place, age 2 (a US
citizen); and boarder, Damace Guilbout,
age 52 (not a US citizen).
1910 US Census: John W. Place, age 77 (b.
English-speaking Canada; parents b. NYS) and employed as a net fisherman, was
heading a household on Bay Street in the Village of Cape Vincent, Cape Vincent
Township, Jefferson County, New York. He
immigrated to the US in 1834 (subsequently naturalized) and had been married
twice. The household also included his
wife of 50 years, Lucy A. Place, age 70 (b. NYS; parents b. NYS), who had been
married once and had had 7 children, 6 of whom were still alive; and
granddaughter, Francis M. Place, age 7 (b. NYS).
1915 NYS Census: John W. Place, age 77 [should be
abt 80; 1915 obit says age 85], was heading a household in Cape Vincent
Township, Jefferson County, New York.
The household also included his wife, Lucy G. Place, age 74; and
granddaughter, Francis Place, age 11.
2. Wife #1: (?)
1910 US Census says John W. Place had been married twice; the first
presumably occurred before 1859, when he married Lucy Gilman.
3. Wife #2: Lucy Ann
Gilman (more
info)
"Nancy" (perhaps; see 1900 and 1905
Censuses)
Born 13 October 1839 in Lorraine Township, Jefferson
County, New York. Died June 1917, age 78 years, 7 months, and 4
days in Cape Vincent Township, Jefferson County, New York; interred with John
in Brownville Cemetery, Brownville Township, Jefferson County, New York. Married John W. Place 16
July 1859.
1850 US Census: Lucy would be about 11 years
old. Of interest, the following
Gillman/Gilman households were enumerated in Lorraine Township, Jefferson
County, New York (perhaps brothers; both b. CT). However, in several census records, Lucy said
her parents were born in NYS.
1. Chester Gillman, age 56 (b. CT) and employed as a
tavern keeper. His real estate was
valued at $1,800. The household also
included his wife, Priscilla Gillman, age 48 (b. CT); daughter, Caroline
Gillman, age 20 (b. presumed NYS); daughter, Adaline
Gillman, age 18 (b. presumed NYS); daughter, Delina
Gillman, age 14 (b. presumed NYS); daughter, Almira
Gillman, age 8 (b. presumed NYS); daughter, Helen Gillman, age 4 (b. presumed
NYS); and Peter Vanschuyler, age 19 (b. Canada) and
employed as a hostler (groom/stableman).
2. Samuel Gillman, age 59 (b. CT) and employed as a
farmer. His real estate was valued at
$2,500. The household also included his
wife, Mary Gillman, age 57 (b. CT); daughter, Charlotte Gillman, age 18 (b.
NYS); daughter, Deantha Gillman, age 16 (b. NYS); and
daughter, Nancy Gillman, age 13 (b. NYS).
1850 US Census: Of interest, Rufus A. Gilman, age 48
(b. NH) and employed as a merchant, was heading a household in Plattsburgh
Township, Clinton County, New York. His
real estate was valued at $2,000. The
household also included his wife, Anne H. Gilman, age 44 (b. NYS); daughter,
Elizabeth Gilman, age 18 (b. NYS); son, Benj M.
Gilman, age 14 (b. NYS); daughter, Louisa Gilman, age 12 (b. NYS); daughter,
Julia Gilman, age 5 (b. NYS); son, Platt Gilman, age 2 (b. NYS); James
Campbell, age 20 (b. NYS) and employed as a clerk; Sarah Marshall, age 25 (b.
Canada), with no occupation recorded; and Amedee Lareaux, age 12 (b. Canada), with no occupation recorded.
1855 NYS Census: Lucy would be about 16 years
old. Of interest, the following Gilman households
were enumerated in Lorraine Township, Jefferson County, New York.
1. Chester Gilman, age 61 (b. CT) and employed as a
farmer, was heading a household in Lorraine Township, Jefferson County, New
York. He had resided in Lorraine
Township 48 years, and his residence was valued at $1,400. The household also included his wife, Leville? Gilman, age 53 (b. Warren Co., NY), who had
resided in Lorraine Township 37 years; daughter, Adaline
Gilman, age 22 (b. Jefferson Co., NY), who had resided in Lorrain Township 19
years; daughter, Delida Gilman, age 18 (b. Jefferson
Co., NY), who had resided in Lorraine Township 18 years; daughter, Almira Gilman, age 13 (b. Jefferson Co., NY), who had
resided I Lorraine Township 13 years; daughter, Ellen Gilman, age 8 (b.
Jefferson Co., NY), who had resided in Lorraine Township 8 years; and servant,
Daniel Overacer, age 65 (b. unknown), who had resided
in Lorraine Township 1 year.
2. Solman Gilman, age 64
(b. CT) and employed as a farmer, was heading a household in Lorraine Township,
Jefferson County, New York. He had
resided in Lorraine Township 48 years.
The household also included his wife, Mary Gilman, age 62 (b. CT), who
had resided in Lorraine Township 42 years; daughter, Charlot
Gilman, age 22 (b. Jefferson Co., NY), who had resided in Lorraine Township 22
years; and daughter, Nancy J.
Gilman, age 18 (b. Jefferson Co., NY),
who had resided in Lorraine Township 18 years.
Of interest, the household headed by Julius Gilman was enumerated next
door.
Note: This Nancy J. Gilman still resided in the
household headed by Solman Gilman in 1870, more than 10 years after Lucy Gilman married John W.
Place.
3. Julius Gilman, age 38 (b. Jefferson Co., NY) and
employed as a farmer, was heading a household in Lorraine Township, Jefferson
County, New York. He had resided in
Lorraine Township 38 years. The
household also included his wife, Armena Gilman, age
34 (b. Chenango Co., NY), who had resided in Lorrain Township 11 years; son,
Martin Gilman, age 10 (b. Jefferson Co., NY); son, Albert Gilman, age 8 (b.
Jefferson Co., NY); and daughter, Alace Gilman, age 4
(b. Jefferson Co., NY). The children
resided their entire lives in Lorraine Township. Of interest, the household headed by Solman Gilman, age 64, was enumerated next door.
1855 NYS Census: Of interest, especially because of
the surnames involved, a Lucy
Gilman, age 17 (b. VT),
resided as a boarder in the household headed by Edgar Place, age 29 (b. VT) and
employed as a blacksmith, in Essex Township, Essex County, New York. She had resided in Essex Township for 1
year. Edgar, his wife, and children had
resided in Essex Township for 2 years, and his residence was valued at $400. The household also included his wife, Elmina
Place, age 29 (b. VT); daughter, May Place, age 8 (b. VT); son, Eugene Place,
age 6 (b. VT); son, George Place, age 5 (b. VT); boarder, Lucy Baldwin, age 58
(b. NH) and married, who had resided in Essex Township 1 year; boarder, Martin
Baldwin, age 88 (b. NJ) and married, who had resided in Essex Township 1 year;
and boarder, Ovette Place, age 11 (b. NYS), who had
resided in Essex Township for 4 months.
1880 US Census: Lucy Place, age 40 (b. NYS; parents
b. NYS), married, and employed keeping house, was heading a household in Croghan Township, Lewis County, New York. Her husband was not enumerated in this
household. The household also included
her daughter, Emma Place, age 20 (b. NYS; parents b. NYS) and at home; son,
William Place, age 14 (b. NYS; parents b. NYS) and at school; son, Melvin
Place, age 11 (b. NYS; parents b. NYS); son, Otto Place, age 8 (b. NYS; parents
b. NYS); son, Philow Place, age 6 (b. NYS; parents b.
NYS); and son, Bertie Place, age 1 (b. NYS; parents b. NYS).
4. Children:
a. Daughter: Born June/July 1860 in New York.
b. Emma Idell
Place: (more
info) See generation 3a,
below.
c. Frederick George Place "George": (more info) Born 4 August 1862 in Lorraine Township, Jefferson
County, New York. Died 1927; interred
Brownville Cemetery, Brownville Township, Jefferson County, New York.
1880 US Census: George Place, age 17 (b. NYS;
parents b. NYS) and employed as a servant [presumably farm laborer], resided in
the household headed by Joel Hubbard, age 35 (b. NYS; parents b. NYS) and
employed as a farmer in Champion Township, Jefferson County, New York. The household also included Joel's family.
1892 NYS Census: George Place, age 29 (b. US) and
employed at a saw mill, was heading a household in Croghan
Township, Lewis County, New York. The
household also included his wife, Hattie Place, age 24 (b. US); and brother,
Melvin Place, age 22 (b. US) and employed as a laborer.
1900 US Census: George Place, age 38 (b. Aug 1861 in
NYS; parents b. NYS) and employed as a fisherman, was heading a household at
Woodville, Ellisburg Township, Jefferson County, New York. The household also included his wife of 15
years, Hattie Place, age 31 (b. Jun 1868 in NYS; parents b. NYS), who had had
no children; step-father, John Place, age 65 (b. Apr 1835 in
English-speaking Canada; parents b. English-speaking Canada) and employed as a
fisherman, who immigrated to the US in 1840 and was subsequently naturalized;
and brother, Bert J. Place, age 21 (b. Jun 1878 in NYS; parents b. NYS),
single, and employed as a fisherman. Of
interest, the household headed by George's brother, Otis Place, was enumerated
next door.
1905 NYS Census: George F. Place, age 42 (b. US),
was heading a household in Ellisburg Township, Jefferson County, New York. The household also included his wife, Hattie
Place, age 36 (b. US); and father, John W. Place, age 70.
1910 US Census: George Place, age 45 (b. NYS;
parents b. NYS), widowed, and employed as a lake fisherman, resided in the
household headed by his brother, Bert Place, age 29, in Ellisburg Township,
Jefferson County, New York.
1915 NYS Census: George Place, age 45, resided in
the household headed by his brother, Bert Place in Ellisburg Township,
Jefferson County, New York.
1920 US Census: George Place, age 56 (b. NYS),
widowed, and employed as a house carpenter, resided in the household headed by
his brother, Bert Place, age 39, in the Village of Cape Vincent, Cape Vincent
Township, Jefferson County, New York.
1925 NYS Census: George F. Place, age 59, resided in
the household headed by his brother, Bert J. Place, in the Village of Cape
Vincent, Cape Vincent Township, Jefferson County, New
York.
George Place married Hattie Nichols (more info) (b. Jun 1868 in NYS, d. there 1907), sister of
Nellie Nichols (b. Mar 1870 at Carthage, Jefferson Co., NY, d. 25 Aug 1933 at
Middletown, Butler Co., OH), who was the daughter of Cal Nichols and married
Ambrose Bert Morgan (b. 7 Nov 1869 at Watertown, Jefferson Co., NY, d. 5 Sep
1946 in OH) and had several children.
George and Hattie (Nichols) Place were married about 1885; no children.
d. William W. Place: Born 1867 in Jefferson County,
New York. Died 1908.
e. Melvin B. Place: Born March 1869 in Jefferson
County, New York. Died
.
1892 NYS Census: Melvin Place, age 22 (b. US)
resided in the household headed by his brother, George Place, age 29 (b. US) in
Croghan Township, Lewis County, New York.
1900 US Census: Melvin Place, age 31 (b. Mar 1869 in
NYS) and employed as a day laborer, was heading a household on Elem Street in
the Village of Cape Vincent, Cape Vincent Township, Jefferson County, New
York. The household also included his
wife of 3 years, Hattie Place, age 24 (b. Sep 1875 in NYS), who had had 1
child, still alive, but not enumerated in this household. Of interest, the household headed by his
brother, Philo Place, age 26, was enumerated on the same census page.
1910 US Census: No record found.
Of interest, a Martin Place, age 40 (b. NYS; parents
b. NYS) and employed as a farmer, was heading a household in Ellisburg
Township, Jefferson County, New York. He
had been married once. The household also
included his wife of 20 years, Elvira Place age 39 (b. NYS; parents b. NYS),
who had had 1 child, still alive; son, DeAlton R.
Place, age 10 (b. NYS); and hired man, Clem Ridgeway, age 18 (b. NYS; parents
b. NYS) and single. He was also heading
a household there in 1900.
1915 NYS Census: No record found.
1920 US Census: Melvin Place, age 50 (b. NYS) and
employed as a carpenter in a car shop, was heading a household at 168 Allen
Street in the City of Buffalo, Erie County, New York. The household also included his wife, Anna
Place, age 45 (b. Ireland), who immigrated to the US in 1895 and was
subsequently naturalized.
1925 NYS Census: Melvin Place, age 55 (b. US), was
heading a household in the City of Buffalo, Erie County, New York. (pg 29)
1930 US Census: Melvin Place, age 61 (b. NYS;
parents b. NYS) and employed as a house carpenter, was heading a household at
1261 Michigan Avenue in the City of Buffalo, Erie County, New York. He married 1st at age 30. The household also included his wife, Anna Place,
age 52 (b. Ireland; parents b. Ireland), who immigrated to the US in 1895
(subsequently naturalized) and married 1st at age 17.
1940 US Census: Melvin Place, age 71 (b. NYS) and
widowed, with no occupation recorded, was heading a one-person household on
Genesee Street. No education level
recorded. He resided in the same city on
1 April 1935.
Melvin Place married (1st) Hattie Radley (more info) (b. Sep 1875 in Cape Vincent Twp, Jefferson Co.,
NY, d. Monday, 10 Nov 1902, age 28, at home, 8 Howk
Street, Watertown, Jefferson Co., NY, about 3 weeks following the birth of her
daughter; interred New Saint Vincent de Paul Cem., Cape Vincent, NY), daughter
of Luke and Mary Augustine (Chavoustie) Radley, about 1897 and had the following daughter:
(1. Frances Mary Place: Born October 1902, about 3
weeks before the death of her mother, at Watertown, Jefferson County, New
York. Married Charles Henry Smith (b.
abt 1896) of Warner's, Onondaga County, New York, son of Harvey J. (b. Little
Falls, NY) and Lucy (Monroe) Smith (b. Little Falls, NY), on 8 December 1923 at
Cape Vincent, Jefferson County, New York.
1905 NYS Census: Frances Place, age 2, resided in
the household headed by her grandfather, John Place, in Cape Vincent Township,
Jefferson County, New York.
1910 US Census: Francis M. Place, age 7 (b. NYS),
resided with her grandparents, John and Lucy Place, on Bay Street in the
Village of Cape Vincent, Cape Vincent Township, Jefferson County, New York.
Melvin Place married (2nd) Anna (?) (b. abt 1875 in Ireland), who immigrated to the US in 1895.
f. Floyd Otis Place "Otis F.": (more info) Born 18 October 1871 in Diana Township, Lewis
County, New York. Died 1955, age 84, in
the House of the Good Samaritan Hospital, Watertown, Jefferson County, New
York; interred Black River Cemetery, Rutland Township, Jefferson County, New
York. At age 4 moved with his parents
from Diana Township, Lewis County, New York to the northern part of Croghan Township, Lewis County. Subsequently moved with his
parents to Saginaw County, Michigan.
Returning to northern New York, Otis resided in the Village of Black River,
Rutland and LeRay Townships, Jefferson County, New York, where he was employed
as a grinderman for the Sherman Paper Company [heavy,
physical work; a grinderman feeds water-soaked,
debarked logs into a compartment containing a large spinning grind stone bathed
in water spray to produce wood fiber used to make paper].
1880 US Census: Samuel Olds, age 43 (b. NYS; parents
b. CT) and employed as a farmer, was heading a household in Lorraine Township,
Jefferson County, New York. The
household also included his wife, Lidda A. Olds, age
38 (b. NYS; parents b. NYS); and daughter, Lillian Olds, age 6 (b. NYS).
1900 US Census: Otis Place, age 28 (b. Oct 1871 in
NYS; parents b. NYS) and employed as a fisherman, was heading a household in
Ellisburg Township, Jefferson County, New York.
The household also included his wife of 8 years, Lillian Place, age 26
(b. May 1874 in NYS; parents b. NYS), who had had no children. Of interest, the household headed by his
brother, George Place, age 38 (b. Aug 1861 in NYS), which also contained their
step-father, John Place, age 65 (b. Apr 1835 in English-speaking Canada) was
enumerated next door.
1905 NYS Census: Otis F. Place, age 33 (b. US), was
heading a household on Watertown Street in LeRay Township, Jefferson County,
New York. The household also included
his wife, Lillian H. Place, age 31 (b. US).
1910 US Census: Ottis F.
Place, age 38 (b. NYS; father b. English-speaking Canada; mother b. NYS) and
employed as a laborer in a paper mill, was heading a household on Maple Street
in the Village of Black River, LeRay Township, Jefferson County, New York. The household also included his wife of 17
years, Lillian O. Place, age 35 (b. NYS), who had had no children.
1915 NYS Census: Otis F. Place, age 44, was heading
a household in LeRay Township, Jefferson County, New York. The household also included his wife, Lillian
O. Place, age 41.
1920 US Census: Otis F. Place, age 48 (b. NYS;
father b. Canada; mother b. NYS) and employed as a grinderman
in a paper mill, was heading a household at 153 North Main Street in the
Village of Black River, LeRay Township, Jefferson County, New York. The household also included his wife, Lillian
O. Place, age 45 (b. NYS; parents b. NYS).
1925 NYS Census: F. Otis Place, age 54 (b. US) was
heading a household in LeRay Township, Jefferson County, New York. The household also included his wife, O.
Lillian Place, age 51. (pg 5)
1930 US Census: Otis F. Place, age 57 (b. NYS;
father b. English-speaking Canada; mother b. NYS) and employed as a tender in a
paper mill, was heading a household at 153 North Main Street in the Village of
Black River, LeRay Township, Jefferson County, New York.
He married 1st at age 20, and his residence was valued at $2,000. The household also included his wife, Lillian
O. Place, age 55 (b. NYS; parents b. NYS), who married 1st at age 19.
1940 US Census: Otis Place, age 67 (b. NYS), with no
occupation recorded, was heading a household at 153 North Main Street in the Village
of Black River, LeRay Township, Jefferson County, New York. He had completed 8th grade, and his residence
was valued at $1,500. The household also
included his wife, Lillian Place, age 64 (b. NYS), who had completed 8th
grade. They resided in the same town on
1 April 1935.
Otis Place married Lillian H. (Merritt) Olds (more
info) (b. 24 May 1874 in Worth Twp,
Jefferson Co., NYS, d. 19 Jun 1943 in an Ogdensburg, St. Lawrence County, New
York Hospital; interred with Otis) on 24 December 1891 in the Village of Adams,
Adams Township, Jefferson County, New York.
Lillian was the daughter of John Martin and Margaret (Flaherty) Merritt,
but because her mother died shortly after her birth, Lillian was informally
adopted and raised by Samuel P. and Lydia "Lily"/"Lidda" Ann (?) Olds of Lorraine
Township, Jefferson County, New York.
Otis and Lillian had no children.
g. Philo Ulysses Place: (more info) See
generation 3b, below.
h. Albert "Bert" John Place: See
generation 3c, below.
3a Emma Idell
Place: (more info)
Born 31 May
1861 in Ellisburg Township, Jefferson County, New York. Died Friday, 12 July 1940 at home in
Watertown, Jefferson County, New York.
Married (1st) (?). Married (2nd) George
Everett Schram, paragraph D.4.a.(1. of generation 3 of the Kirchner Annex on 22 September 1897 at Mather's Mills (near
Belleville), Ellisburg Township, Jefferson County in New York.
See Kirchner
Annex for More Info
3b Philo Ulysses Place: (more info)
Born 13
March 1872/75. Died 3 March
1948. Married Charlotte
Anna Schram, paragraph D.4.a.(4. of generation 3 of the Kirchner Annex on 24 November 1897.
See Kirchner
Annex for More Info
3c Bert John Place:
Born 22
June 1879 in New York. Died 9 September 1959 in the
Village of Cape Vincent, Cape Vincent Township, Jefferson
County, New York. Married Mae
Louise Schram, paragraph D.4.a.(6. of generation 3 of the Kirchner Annex on .
See Kirchner
Annex for More Info
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